GVK
So namaskar, everyone. Welcome to Honest Astrologer. And today’s podcast is going to be the most special podcast. This is with my personal hero, with my favorite astrologer, with my role model, somebody I have absolutely looked up to and somebody who answered a lot of my questions. And I was a thinker from childhood and I started learning astrology as a child. But there were questions which had no answers, some things which were just traditional nonsense passed over from one generation to other generation. Then comes a man and he says, this is the way. And you can actually see that happens in reality. So I was like, this man gets it. Parash Trivedi, the man, the legend himself. So, Parash, sir, what an honor. What a blessing. I’m so happy, I’m getting goosebumps. Welcome, sir.
PRASH
The channel of yours, no, it is a pleasure to be here in this podcast and maybe clarify some things which want to have some clarity or want some clarity on. So it’s a pleasure to do so. So, and it’s quite a long introduction you gave. I mean, so, I mean it’s, it’s a thing that, yeah, more people should go and find out the actual truth of things rather than, you know, just believing, you know, because all the things which are being passed down are distorted this time and age. So the questioning them and correcting them is a process which everyone should be involved in. Yes.
GVK
So we’ll start with the first question.
PRASH
Yes.
GVK
So for those who don’t know, Parash comes from IIT Delhi, and this is typically a path which takes you to scientific careers or corporate careers. What made you get into Vedic wisdom, astrology, ancient living?
PRASH
Why, yes, the thing is like, if you think about it, like the engineering aspect of it, it’s a technical thing, you know, like. And so technology is about understanding the universe and how nature functions and utilizing. That’s technology. Right. So Jyotish is pretty much a universal technology, only it’s like universal engineering, understanding how the universe functions for human beings, for the human life on Earth. And so for me, it was another technical subject. I just took it in that same sort of way of going about things, you know, technical engineering, same. So that was my approach and, and I started reading some books on it and they weren’t so technical, you know, and they didn’t have this kind of approach to it. So I thought since it’s a actual universal thing, then universal things are all coherently organized. There’s organization in the universe. So understanding that organization would mean that it, the science should be more technical. Like the whole Thing and so that was my approach and that’s what got me into it. And the Vedic one had the technical aspects, but they were not missing from the modern interpretations. Perfect. So. So that was the start of the journey, basically.
GVK
Great. So, sir, before you came on the scene, there was very little known about Nakshatras. I am a second generation astrologer. Was something we just knew the names about.
PRASH
Yes.
GVK
And after you came on scene, there are so many books, there are training courses, there are what not. But the man who started this, how did he find out? How did you get this knowledge which was nowhere.
PRASH
Yeah, the thing was. Yeah, in also if you look, the names are there. So I, I also started with those same spot in the names I mentioned. So the thing is that after that I thought like, the only way we can know about this is Sadna is another technical way. You work on yourself internally, you know, or you open your, you know, if your third eye opens and then you get that sort of intuitive clarity. And then the second thing is observation, you know, Moon transits through one every day, you know, so, so combining both things, sadhana and observation, I would say that was the modus operandi for coming to know. And I knew that like rashi level was a level where, you know, there are some things, you know, it’s useful as a skeleton, but it’s not where the things are, you know, so, so then the next level is achatras. So then I went into that level and then after that I thought like, okay, then you have four divisions, the padas, you know, so that is another technical layer below. And then you can have four more divisions of that. Then that’s another technical layer below. So you can keep on. So it keeps on becoming a technical science in that way where, where you’re zooming in, basically, it’s. You’re zooming in, zoom in, zoom in, zoom in, basically. And that’s, that’s how it should be any technical science where you come to know the reality of things, you know, so, so that was the. Again a process since the, the I had a technical inclination already.
GVK
No wonder you went to IIT.
PRASH
So, so then I, I knew I had to approach it in that I couldn’t approach it in, in the way with, you know, which had been happening for the last, last 100, 200 years or maybe even thousand years now in India. Like, you know, so, so that, that was the thing, you know, Nakshatras.
GVK
So coming to Nakshatras, you are the master of the science. Whenever you hear the word Nakshatra the word gandamul is often thrown around and people get scared, especially when a new child is born. So I would request you to demystify the concept of gandamul and suggest some remedies which are there because people are being blackmailed.
PRASH
Okay, I get it. I mean, the thing is with Gunmul is, as you know, the. These only happen when water signs are meeting the fire signs. Right. Like at the intersection of water and fire now, which are sort of considered opposite elements like water and fire. Okay. So whenever, like if you boil water, for example, like heat it up, like you get steam. Right? Now steam is used for cooking. Can be used for cooking. You can cook rice, you. All kinds of things are cooked with steam and, and you can use it for producing elect city turbines. Okay. You know, so my point is it is just a, a steam producing area now when steam is being produced, you know, then use it. Whosoever has those energies gr they have to utilize them. The, the steam in whatever professions, whatever things require that kind of approach effort. That’s all. That’s the remedy. There is no other. You know, it’s just energy. It’s. It’s not a negative energy. Steam is not negative energy.
GVK
Yeah, right.
PRASH
I mean, yes, like evaporation, cloud making, all of that. It’s not a negative energy. It’s just utilizing. If you don’t utilize it, for example, in a pressure cooker, the steam builds up, the pressure cooker explodes. Yes. So the only remedy is keep making sure that you’re using steam properly. The things are working. Everything is working in your life in that way. You’re doing with the meditation. You’re having a work which will help you utilize your steam in some creative, proactive way. You know, that’s the. There’s no negativity to it. You know, until somebody creates something for themselves, you know, there is basically. So, so we have demystified it. It’s just them, like it’s not.
GVK
So just a quick question on that. Let’s say a child is born and is born on a gandam. And so what do we tell the parents what to do with the child? Should they push him into sports? Should they let him express himself? What?
PRASH
Yeah, yeah. I mean, they might be more active in that way. Then activity is more important. You know, it might be a little bit of hyperactivity, but that’s also okay. You know, there’s no problem either way, you know, in the only thing, it should not bottle up, you know, and yet don’t do this or that or that thing. If you suppress the lid too much in steam, you know, it blows. Yeah. So. So that is the only actual issue with that. There’s no other that thing. I mean, for example, if it’s in a Nakshatra, like it’ll be some Nakshatra and then it’ll have a Lord and then Lord will have different kind of placements and different kind of charts. So it’ll be different for everybody. You know, it’s not the same. Nakshatra will be like ja will be safe for everyone. You know, that depends on Mercury’s placements. And wherever the placement is, that’s where the steam will be utilized. You know, of the Nakshatra Lord. So you know, so in that direction. So that’s. There is no other issue at all. Yeah, yeah.
GVK
So talking of Kandamur Nakshatra, there is one which escapes me, that is Ashlesha. And I often say Ashlesha is Scorpio masquerading in Cancer. The kind of intensity Ashlesha gives. And I saw one of your interviews and I tried that for three months. I tracked Moon every day. And I have a cancer Moon Pusha Nakshatra. So whenever Moon would go through Ashlesha, something would go wrong with me. So then I wanted to see what would be why is it. And I have seen Ashlesha. Moon people suffer a lot. Very intense life, very intense emotions. So what would be a right way and some remedy to manage this Nakshatra? Because it scares me every month.
PRASH
Yes, the, the thing with the Ashlesha is very simple. I mean it’s like Moon at the Rashi level and Mercury at the Nakshatra level. Okay, okay. Now, now what do we understand by that? What is Mercury? It’s intellect. Okay. And Moon is. Okay, so now there’s a battle between the two. Mind and intellect. Okay. Mind will say something. Intellectual say something. Okay, now, now the point here is the intellect should be the one which should be taking the reign of the horses, you know, the minds, horses. So if the mind is getting too, too much of its own way, then this Nakshatra creates problem. You know, if the intelligence, the Vivek Buddhi, which is golden Sanskrit is taking the precedence, then it’ll not. Okay, so everything should be done in a non emotional manner. More and more like, like a mercurial manner in that nature. It’s a demand of that Nakshatra. Okay? It’s a demand. And Mercury should be the primary thing here.
GVK
Not okay, Moon becomes very powerful.
PRASH
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So that’s, yeah, that’s that’s, that’s the issue here, you know. So the, the mercury part, the Buddhi Vivek to be on top of the mind is the work. If a being does that then it, this Nakshatra works fine. If in that the, let’s say the rath moves forward. Well, if, if the reins of the mind horse, mind source is that controlled by the, the charity of called Buddhi, you know, that is the way. Otherwise it goes in all directions and it creates chaos and you know, it just will be a whirlpool of.
GVK
So if someone like me who suffers every day that moon goes to Ashlesha, what should they do?
PRASH
Yeah, they should, you know, like, like use more mercury that thing to solve anything, you know, not to get emotional about it. The emotions have to be kept out and the clear intelligence Buddhi Vivek has to be polite and speech has to be like that also. You know, in dealing with any situation.
GVK
I understand how much wisdom this has. Now those who understand it can understand this. Those who cannot. Yes, yes, leave it to them. Okay. Now people often after completing their IITs, they go to New York and they go to Tokyo and they go to London. You went to live with the Hopi native tribe. Why? And what did you learn from them about spirituality, astrology and things like that?
PRASH
Okay, the thing is, since I was not going to do any kind of job and corporate job or anything like that, I had made up my mind already and I got a chance, you know, to deal with the some tribe in US which was still having more connection with nature, you know. And that is the essence of all Vedic knowledge. Actually like the veds are basically about the five elements. If you look at the ves, they are mostly about the five elements and which are called punch Mahabha, punch dev, you know, so these people were still trying to maintain that. And this was the last generation out there also which was trying to maintain that. And they, because the other generation, now the future generations are still more Americanized than they are, you know, in the modern swing of things. So and when I went there I just found out that their similarities with Vedic like, you know, so which made me understand that the whole earth at one point was with, you know, Native Americans in U S were like that. The native tribes in South America or Africa or wherever, Europe, you know, the knowledge, Nordic knowledge, everything, anything is Vedic knowledge in different forms. So, so for me it was a matter of like a, that everything on earth had a similar system and a similar thing and similar sort of connection with nature, you know. And in last few thousand years since the religions, organized religions have taken over, you know, so all of that has gone out the window. And you know, they, they call it paganism now. They have different words for it, you know, what the Hopi practice and everything. And so it was made to look like a bad thing, you know, something negative or something useless, you know, so, so for me it was just a reinforcement that, that, that connectivity is there and we can bring that connectivity back at some point all around the earth, you know. So it was, it was that kind of journey for me. And, and you have to start somewhere in the world, you know, and I started there, you know, so it’s like. Because after university you have to do something and you know, this is something which was more in the lines of what I wanted to do, you know. So, so, so, so that, because I mean, that way, I mean, I mean there’s a security in like getting jobs and you know, and getting fixed monthly income and all of that, you know. But I mean, a lot of people are doing that and I mean it’s, I mean it’s good if it works for them. For me, I thought there has to be something more.
GVK
It was your summer internship.
PRASH
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. It’s like something more. And, and they, they were like. And that was the beginning of Internet through 97 and stuff where I could first talk to them. And I got that opportunity, I got the invitation and everything. So it was good utilization of the new tech technology as well, you know, so, so just things were possible, you know, and start being possible from that time. And so whatever I learned from at that time, the great purification and all of that, you know, is the same which has become. Now look at the Internet.
GVK
I got to talk to you. How many people?
PRASH
Yes, yes, yes. So the source concepts are still holding and things are still going in that direction from 98 to 20, 25, 27 years now. But that things are moving in that direction. What was prophesied and what was talked about in that time?
GVK
Parash, you are an awakened being. You have managed to rise your Kundalini and you have all this knowledge which we can only imagine. How can a normal person try to awaken his Kundalini? Because there are lot of horror stories, there are a lot of legends. I haven’t met many people with an awakened Kundalini. So could you just write us about this?
PRASH
Yeah. The whole point actually is not to try and awaken Kundalini or anything like that. The whole point is to actually just follow basic practices, you know. Which I call meditate, which commander meditation. Now I call it Try check. You know, it’s on my website, it’s on my videos. People can see that. Yeah, tragic. Which is like, you know, the centering in posture, speech and face. And then connection with nature, grounding, connection with earth. Having a gratitude element to earth, to the elements, most important. And you just practice that. You know, once you do, that’s called doing the right thing as a human being. What I call doing the right thing. Once you’re doing the right thing as a human being, whatever result happens after that, that’s good. If Kundalini happens, good. If something else happens, whatever happens will be for the good and evolution of yours. You know, that that depends on what are your practices like. Kundalini will depend on a lot of practice from past lives and how much you’re done. And so there are a lot of factors for that. But I’m just saying that as long as a person does that, whatever they have to do on this earth and whatever is their role and their own evolution and their own dharma and karma, you know, they can do properly, you know, so which I call basics, human basics. You know, the tragic, the grounding, the gratitude to the elements. You know, this is a basic. For any human being, you know, which is born on earth. So people should try and do the right thing, you know, the correct thing, the human thing. And not. I have this kind of goal that I have to raise. Problems happen when people are trying to force these kind of issues without actually having a foundation. And the foundation actually is this connection with nature, this gratitude and this centering. So in, I think in ancient gurukuls, Virishis and everyone taught like these things were taught firstly from grade 1, 5, 6, you were sitting on the ground, you were having gratitude, you were centering, you were doing repetitions from the center of your mouth which were. Which are called now mantras and whatever, repeating your pure principles of the universe, you know, so these are basics which human beings can do and create a foundation, like so then only rest, you know. So by the time you’re 18, 19, you should be ready for your dharman karma in this world. So. So that’s what the point was. Now it’s not possible right now because education is not that. So then you have. Whenever you start, that becomes your starting point. And then from there on you take it forward. So that’s. That’s like. Like I started at 18, 17, 18, then my university, the same thing. So like whenever you start, it is the start now, you know, that is.
GVK
The, you know, and how was the experience? Like did you just wake up something and you felt something moving and.
PRASH
No, no, no, that is obviously it the, that’s a physical sensation, all of that when it happens it’s, everybody can know it. Like it’s a very physically mutable thing, you know, like you can perceive it. It’s not something just which is in the suks which you cannot feel in the stool body which the stool show you. So like it is very clear. But obviously it’s best to be fit as well for that, you know, physically fit, you know, to handle that kind of thing which I had because I was interested in sports. So, so I played a lot of sports until that time. So there was a fitness element, you know, to this and which used to be the case in before as well when I think in gurukuls and stuff people were kept physically fit by various activities and you know, so, so that, that is an important point which people miss, you know about this, that that is also necessary for it because it takes endurance and stamina and things like that to handle that kind of thing. And again I think the base which is connected to earth is very important. The base, you know, you don’t do electrical things without having the ground and because the excess charge and all of that like it’s a technical issue the whole thing, you know. You know, so it’s that. So those parts are the most important first, you know, which, which have gone out of the window in most of the people so called yogas and everything, you know, that is, you know, it’s. They are not very earth and element centric anymore and nothing is so without that nothing is possible for a human being really. There’s no foundation actually. So that is the whole point which is there in my. That things, you know, people in Lotus Ocean can go to the meditations and go to my talks online and I do tell about these things out there. So I made them public for a long time so that people can, you know, utilize this.
GVK
Lotus Ocean is Parash’s website. Please go check it out. Awesome, awesome content. That’s so that.
PRASH
Yeah, but meditation anyone can do like anyone can start with the basic steps. The basics are same for everyone and they’re simple and people should be able to do that. So.
GVK
Okay, so coming to the next question, sir, top three do’s and don’ts. You would like to suggest to a spiritual seeker who is trying to make sense of the world. So you know, a seeker looks so people with very strong spiritual yogas, they are looking for something. And nowadays it is an industry and a very exploitative industry.
PRASH
Yes. So. Yes.
GVK
Some guidance from you for the spiritual seekers trying to make sense of the world.
PRASH
Yes. Black first. Black. That thing is, you know, that understand that you have to take care of your body first, you know, Number one. The number one dharma for human being is to take care of their instrument for this lifetime, which is being given to do your actions, okay? So you have to take care of that. Okay? And taking care of that, you. You will understand that you will have to connect with elephants. You know, you’ll have to connect with earth. You’ll have to connect with air and water and that which you do everything. And rather than connecting with chemicals, which mostly people are connecting with, you know. So the most important thing is that which I call one number one, you know, Number two is like, you have to still do the responsibility in the world. Like to survive in this world, you have to do different things, you know, and be ready to do that. Whatever is required for surviving in this world, you know, whatever karma or action you have to do for that, you know. So don’t run away from that. Okay? Number one. Number two is that. Then comes number three, your spiritual practice, you know, which is I, which is which come start from centering, you know, and of the body, which is. All practices are done by the body, you know. So that’s discipline of the body. It’s a yum name of the body, which is the spiritual practice, you know, it’s not something up in the air or something strange or some kind of astral travel or. Or like nd or that kind of thing, which I’m talking about here. I’m talking about a very. Because practically everything happens through the body here. So. So to do those meditations and stuff after you have done your one and two. So that is the third aspects. These are the do’s, you know, and don’t start like. Like, do not miss these steps. That is. You know, that. That’s. That’s the don’ts. But you have to make sure, like, because a lot of people once, you know, because what has happened in India is okay, like you. If you become more spiritual, like people become sadhu, then they stop taking care of the body in different kind of ways. You’re just letting yourself go sort of situation, you know. But that’s not how things work, you know. And by external things, you know, just by. By putting like, you know, rock on yourself or that kind of thing, even though rock is good for you, your body, for exfoliation different times you can. But then you can have a bath, you know, you can wash it off, you know. But what I’m just saying that like stop looking for external factors on it. It’s more of an like actual practice, you know, what you eat, how are you eating it, what is your discipline in eating? You know, all of that, you know, that is the important things, you know. So these are the bits which people should focus on first in the very much.
GVK
So much pretension, so much outwardly show off is going on.
PRASH
You know, the. That’s the point. Like and rishis and stuff actually know the thing, you know, let’s know as of how things function. What is a human body machine and how it functions? What, in what way can it function best? How to utilize it the best, you know. So they are more like technical beings really. You know, not, not this pseudo thing which has happened in the last few hundred years or maybe thousand years. Yeah. Because again it’s lack of basics, you know, the player missing the basics, you know, and the person is missing the basics. So. And there’s nobody teaching basics anymore, you know, it’s not like there’s no Guruku system where some basics are being taught like that. And so when people try to go into these things and they go to the Sadhu babas and whatever and there is no such thing there even. Yeah. So they are also not doing the discipline in the way it should be done. And none of these beings are teaching any of that. So the whole. Again, just like Jyotish, what happened in Jyotish? The same thing happens in that. Like the, the, the reality of it, the technicality of it is missing. So that’s what causes the confusion. It causes bewilderment. It causes the age of darkness, you know, that’s what darkness is. You don’t know anything for sure. And there’s no clarity. There’s no. I mean for human being, basic clarity. How to handle this body. Because you’re born with this body, how to handle this body. That basic clarity should be there. Without that nothing else is possible, you know. And that’s. And we have to start from that level. We have to start from that very basic, basic level. How to deal with the body, what is best for it, how to keep it and how to utilize it. And that from that all spirituality happens. The Brahman is only happy if you can use this body wisely which has been given to you. And that is the test, you know, that is the holy.
GVK
So just a personal note. I have ensured that both My sons are fit. I am a big fat Punjabi man and I suffer because of it.
PRASH
Yeah, and not just like. I mean some people can have eat more and be more like Bhim and that’s not a problem, that’s not a disease per se, you know. But the thing is then they have to be for that particular task, you know, as per the task you can do that kind of diet but then you still have to be able to utilize that diet. If you eat more then how are you going to utilize it and what are you going to do with it and you know what, what amount of vayam you will require for. For that like so there is a discipline for different levels of diet and different kinds of diet and you know there’s a discipline associated and that people should know automatically. Depending on their own chart and depending on their own nature. Depending on their own. I think what suits me, you know and, and what should be the that thing. And there are some basic rules obviously for everything, you know, like ayurvedic rules, you know that in the chart that is there and the balancing of the elements and all of that. So accordingly diets change for different people as well. Some people can eat more salad, some people cannot. But you know, so it has to be that’s where J helps again as a tool, you know. So all of that has is a very technical know how which like Ayurved along with Jyotish is for keeping the human body system in the right place, you know. So. So all of those sciences have to come back in a right, real technical way and applied and create a whole. Yeah, create a whole. Like. Yeah, that’s the. Yeah.
GVK
Okay sir, last question. There is this debate between destiny and free will and there is this concept and one of my clients sent me this. He said there are people who say that you can change anything through the train in your Chart 159 house, can you explain this and how can you use this to navigate negative planetary periods?
PRASH
Right. The thing is the, the destiny and preview thing is like destiny, what people call destiny is the circumstance, you know what you’re born into a certain family and what you are like and what you have. Like what are the opportunities you have? Basically circumstances. Basically. Now after circumstances comes, you know, free will. Work is like everyone has free time in a day. Everyone, you know, after they do their basics and whatever they have free time now what do they do in that time? Who, who decides that? You know, you decide that, you know, that’s your free will within a circumstance. You have your chance to do what you want to do. You know, that free time, that free will, what you call the free will, you know, some basic things are there. You have to eat, you have to do the right thing and you have to take care of. But that’s not a free will in a way because you should do that. But people can still apply free will and not do that, not take the body. Okay. That’s also another aspect of free will. Okay, so, so, so that is, you know, because there’s no chart position and condition which will make you sit in a meditation. It’s your body. You will have to make it sit in the center pose. And there was. There’s nothing which is going to do that for you. Then if I’m running dashas of five and nine, then only I can sit in meditation. If, if I’m not running those dashas, I cannot. You know that. So that. See that’s where you’re using free will to get out of something. It’s not the chart which is saying that, you know, chart is just creating an atmosphere and circumstance. And you know what like. Which is like how much you have get on this plane or what you. Whatever you don’t get, you know, in terms of material things, you know, that’s all the thing is. But what are you doing by yourself while your body is a lot of free will in that actually. So, so that’s where it is to be applied. Okay. The free will aspect is to be applied into. And changing is like you’re not changing this life circumstance necessarily, you know, for example, it’s not like some. By doing something and if your chart doesn’t allow for, let’s say a lot of monetary gains, you know, and you’ll do something and you will have is that’s not going to happen.
GVK
Right, Right.
PRASH
So some things are fixed, you know, there’s a limit which is put on different things in your life by your birth chart. Yes, there is a ceiling. Let’s say, let’s call it a ceiling, you know, and then you can’t undo that in just one lifetime’s effort. That’s not possible, you know, but what you can do is actually evolve yourself and do the right actions so that your future lives and your future things are better. You can get rid of the sixth cycle of birth and death or have better, better life than scar for future life. That is in your hands, you know, but, but changing actual material things, you know, it’s not like if somebody works hard then they’ll become Ambani suddenly, you know, it’s this is not going to happen by anything you do out there, you know, so. So that’s where people have to understand that, you know, and not try to change everything, you know, which because you can, whatever limitations are there of the birth chart, you can still work within that. That’s enough for you to work for your evolution and for your raising your spirit, you know. So 5 and 9 is for raising the spirit prime. It’s not about getting something. So I mean it is. And in terms of 5 and 9, also in terms of the difference it can make is like if you’re going by that, you know, you can be more healthy or like your body can stay more healthy than what the charts are this or, you know, like and which is again for doing your spiritual practice only, you know, why do you want health? Because that is the time which you have to, you know. And depending on your level of health, whatever level of your health you have, you can do the practice according to that universe will see like you’re doing whatever is feasible for you and you’re putting in 100 effort from your side for everything. That’s what matters at the end, you know, so that is the great, great, great.
GVK
So with this we come to the end of this discussion. It has been such a pleasure and one of the best days in my life. So to see you live, talk to you. Sir, request your blessings.
PRASH
Yes.
GVK
This is the first time that you have come, but I would request you not to make this the last time. So I’ll bother you maybe once and here types and if you bless us with your presence.
PRASH
Yeah, yeah. The blessings of the universe are always there when people do the work from their side. Like they have to put it into application, you know, because the blessing should not become something where people think that I don’t have to do the work now blessing is there. Okay? It’s not about that. Blessing comes from the work, you know, work is the blessing. The work you’re putting in is the actual blessing, you know. So that is the most profound.
GVK
Very profound, very profound. And with this we come to the end of this interview with the one and only Parash Trivedi.