I did a webinar with help of two close friends, Vishal and Tushar.
After a research spanning over 18 (including very-very intense last three months), we came up with all things that can go wrong with the moon, and how to solve it.
Legends of the Moon: Learning about how this planet can be so great and so damaging
Moon in tough signs: Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces (and the other side of these signs)
Moon in tough houses: Moon in 6th, 7th, 8th, and 12th
Moon in difficult combinations: Yes there are the usual suspects, Shani Rahu Ketu, but there is a surprise entry, VENUs.
Remedies for a difficult moon: Depending upon the problems in the chart.
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For those who like me, prefer reading, i go the webinar transcribed and am sharing at this site.
So here we go:
G. Vijay Kumar: Special thanks to Visha, Tushar, and Reetika. Without these three I could not have done this and special thanks to Tushar, he is our technical guy. He has done a very good job. Another thing I would like to say and thanks again to Tushar for pointing this out. You should not be hating people with this combination.
You know it very clearly states Dark Side of The Moon. This time we are not going to talk about happiness and pastries and children and all that. This session will be about how damaging this planet (Moon) can be and how to control it and the particular combination with this damage can be really intense. Thanks to Linda Goodman, lot of people know a lot about moon but ye cheez jayada possesses nahi kiya hai, the dark side and there is a very deadly dark side and you people will realize by the time we reach to the end of it. Har cheez ke liye hum by default jo hai Shani, Rahu, Ketu ko blame karte hai, up to an extent it is right, but ye jo chautha planet hai, he can be much more damaging when he is in a bad mood, or it is in a bad place. So we will start with this. So people with this combination, they deserve our empathy and sympathy and support and for the record out of four the people who worked on it, three of us have a very damaged moon. So barring Vishal, the lucky one, all three of us have a very damaged moon. So please do not hate us okay, and whenever you see this combinations try to help these people. Moon will bless you. So let’s start, it is werewolves and witches Dark Side of the Moon and one last thing I would like to add, you know, people have a very romantic notion of moon and especially the sign Cancer, which you all know I love to hate and particularly Pisces, so this time we will go to their dark sides as well. So please do not get disturbed, arre mere bare maine aisa bol diya…nahi this is for one particular combination. There can be several other combination which can ride over this but ye thoda bahut usme dega impact and most important thing is we can always try and overcome this stuff. So this session is all about dark side. Okay, so lets start.
So this is what you said already that chart has to be analyzed as a whole and it do not judge a person by moon placement only as more to a person than that.
So first thing moon is the most important planet and you know there is a reason by Ram and Krishna, both chose one planet in their first house and that was moon. Of course it was in a combination, Krishna had a Moon Ketu, and Ram had a Moon Jupiter. So why is this the most important planet. So ek baar kisi ne mere se poocha, if you could take a rebirth, which planet would you like to choose the placement in your chart and I said, boss exalted moon preferably in the tenth house. They were like Shani, Rahu, Ketu…maine kaha nahi, if moon is okay, I can be poor and still happy. So what I have learned, Sun is how you deal with the world, Moon is how deal with your own self and your inner circle. You know for example, a person with a very strong Moon will have very motherly feelings toward his inner circle and towards his children and how he or she feels that is very important. To vo jo feeling nature hai, that is your moon. To aap duinya main kya karte ho that is your Sun, you know, you can be a badass boss, going to the office and you know doing everything or raat ko ho sakta hai app kisi purni yaad pe daaru peekar ke roye that could be your moon. So moon is your inner life and how you deal with yourself and the inner world. Sun is your external world, bahar ki duniya, office wala. Moon is your house ka and your inner circle.
Anything Vishal, Tushar you guys want to add.
Vishal: I wanted to say something. Moon, jab main moon ki taraf dekhta hoon na, I feel moon is like the patra, so every planet gives, Shani gives pain, Jupiter gives happiness, Venus gives pleasures, comforts, Moon takes and when moon takes, it processes and it gives it back to us. Aur vo jo processing hai moon ka that actually decides how we are gong to react to something in life. So if take pain from Shani or if we take pain from Rahu or confusion from Rahu, but how will I react to it. Remember that kahavat thi 90% attitude, 10% problem. That is a very moon kind of statement and I will give you an example. Few days later, I was reading about Mahesh Manjrekar, the director, so he just had cancer and you know he went through this treatment, now he is fine, but nobody while he was doing movies and stuff, directing and all, nobody knew that he had cancer and he was very okay about it. He just went through the routine treatments and then came out fine.
Taurus moon hai uska?
I did not check that but I am saying the attitude he carried towards life is what a strong moon can give you and on the other side remember Kangna Ranawat in the movie Queen seating on the car bonnet and crying, yelling.
Absolutely, mera itna life kharab ho gaya, so that is typical moon Kirk rashi wala.
Correct, so moon is how you actually some days you know, you wake up and you go outside and everything seems bad, aap ka vohi ghar hai, vohi balcony hai, aap balcony ke bahar dekh rahe ho, but everything seems bad, lagta hai yaar ye kya life hai, ye kya duniya hai saamne, but on the next day you go and stand in your balcony you feel absolutely wonderful that is all your moon because moon is your emotional body. We have seven bodies, right. Physical body, itiric body usme jo emotional body hai, that is our moon. Sometimes the moon actually helps like a placebo effect also. People with strong moon and I am one of them, people with strong moon have a tendency to tell themselves, everything is fine, it will be okay and that kind of has that placebo effect in you and then you start thinking, things are okay. It is not that secret wala funda, ke achacha achacha bolo to achacha achchah hoga, but they are self-healing. A strong moon is very self-healing. So I believe that is the reason this planet becomes very-very important.
And folks we have an entire slide on how to learn from a good moon, courtesy Vishal. We will come to that in detail. So Tushar your view. Vishal, sorry, you had anything to add.
Nahi, bus khaali ek cheez tha ke transits usually we don’t talk about but this is one planet, which changes house everyday.
Jiska transit matters, yes..yes, absolutely.
This changes house every two and a half days, a different mood. So when at home, I see that my wife is very-very quiet, I just go and check the moon transit and I decide how many days I have to keep quiet.
So you know, you hear a lot of halla-gulla about Saturn transit, Rahu-Ketu, even Jupiter transit. It is the moon transit that matter guys.
Baaki sab hawa main hai. This is very-very close.
So that’s all, that is all from my side.
When Sun transit, bahar ka taapman kam jayada hota hai, with moon transit andar ka taapman kam jayada hota hai…remember this. So Tushar, over to you.
Tushar: Well, aajtak brain to locate kar liya gaya hai human physiology main but mind ki location kisi ne aajtak nahi paayi, ki where is the mind exactly located. Some would say it is in the cerebellum, some would say it is behind the head, is lobe main, is lobe main, but nobody has actually been able to say that this is the mind. And this what the Rishis have always been teaching us that the mind itself has no fundamental basis of its own. As Vishal ji said, it is a processing unit. What is it processing? It is processing the sensorial inputs that your body is receiving. So the sense of sight, smell, all of these indriyas, lekin ye sab kuch ander inputs bhej rahe hai, and you are processing it. How are you processing it. As you said, Shani bhi act kar raha hai, Rahu bhi act kar raha hai, but it is getting processed somewhere, that is the mind. Originally associated with lunacy the reason was that many people thought purane jamane aisa hota tha ki jab full moon hota tha to crime rates would shoot up, asylum main bharti jyada hone lag jaati thi, to isiliye it comes from the word lunar, which is also coming from the word lunatic. Doosari cheez ye aati hai ki it closely correlates with the menstrual cycle of a woman, which is why moon is generally taken to be a female deity, but only in Hindu mythology it is usually a chandra means male, but it is a female deity, because it changes every 28 days. Jaise 27 nakshatra hai vaise 28 days is cycle hoti hai. So this is what I have on the moon. Moon itself is maya, kyonki uska koi space locate nahi kiya ja sakta. It is your inner feeling, but where is it feeling, you don’t know where it is. That is where it catches.
You know why the title is “dare to stare”, because if you will stare at the Sun, you can go blind, if you stare at the moon, you can actually go mad. Like Tushar said and his work with people with mental complications. So if you stare at the moon for very long, you can go mad and if you go mad, the mad people would often keeping looking at moon. Right Tushar? Unko chaand bahut pasand hota hai. They simply hate Sun. So moon brings out your demons. You know all those negative witches or werewolf, vo kabhi bhi Sun ki light mein nahi aayenge, vampires kabhi Sun ki light mein nahi aayenge, vo saare aayenge moon ki light mein. So the external demons as well as your inner demons will come out when moon is in the right position. So ye madness or mahem, you know bollywood humko sikhata hai, amavas ki raat bahut pareshan wali hoti hai, it is actually the full moon night which is very damaging that is when maximum people get into crimes of passion, depression, crying bouts. If somebody drinks alcohol, hisaab rakhna ki kaun kaun se din aapko hit karti hai, and I can bet 10,000 bucks ki ye full moon pe jayada hit karti hai. So it is full moon that you need to care about. So let’s go to the myths of the moon. So you know in India for some reason we have done a very halka haath on the moon. I do not know that is the only planet where western astrology has done a better job. I will have admit that. But haan, moon wale main hints bahut saare hai. So he was born out of tears of Rishi Atri. So no wonder, moon walo ka nalka chalu rahta hai. Then he was very handsome, good looking, he got married to 27 nakshatra, but Rohini was his favorite and he would ignore 26 wives, spend all the time with Rohini. So moon people are very partial. I have always seen this. Shani in the ninth, kabhi nainsaafi nahi karega, moon in the ninth insaaf karke nahi dega, kabhi dekh lena. They would always play favorite. Moon just cannot you know discriminate on dharma, uska ek hi discrimination hai mera kauna hai, paraya kaun hai. Then just to add to all the khurafaat, he elope with his guru’s wife. Jupiter ki wife Tara Devi, unko lekar ke vo bhaag gaye the. So this shows ki Moon ko order or discipline nahi chahiye, mann-mauji shabd hai na… that has come from moon, mann ki mauj, jo aagya kar diya, guru ki biwi, dekha jayega, main to left ja raha hoon. And of course when Shukracharya came and gave him his blessings, we will talk about it. How these two planets together brought the universe to the brink of destruction. And of course it is associated with Shiva. Shiva when in his Bholenaath mode, he is Chandrama, when he is in a dandnayak mode, he becomes Shani and of course it is related to Maa as well. So when maa is in Lalita mode aur Gauri mode, she is Chandra roop, when she goes on a rampage, she is in a Kaali mode, she becomes Shani, Rahu. Now come into the western myth. Westerners somehow may be because of the witches case or whatever, they always had a healthy skepticism about you know, Moon is not all about baking bread and you know giggling with babies. Moon goddess in ke kai hai, Hades se lekar ke aur lady of the beast tak, so they would typically you know portray her as a very mixed kind of deity. Aapka Chandrma, at maximum is shararati, okay. Mood goddess can be mad killers and child swallowers because that is like nature. In nature, you know, there are some animal species jo apne bachche kha jaate hai, because they know ki humko abhi zinda rahna hai and there are too many species where the female would kill the male after the procreation, ke bhai iska role khatam, ab isko kha karke main apne bachocho ke liye nutrition ikttha karon. That is how dangerous moon and a mother’s will to live can be. So nature is kind and cruel both. You know we all love and respect nature and we should, but nature can wield incredible violence with no remorse. Ek jagah bhookamp aayega hazaron-lakho aadmi gayab, bachche, buddhe, javan sab. So moon can be very kind and moon can be very cruel, and we will see this in further slides, but damaged moon is more likely to hurt his own people than other people. Ye iski badi ajeeb si baat hai. So iske saath main kuch animals jode jaate hai, moon ke liye chandrma ko aksar hiran pe savar dikhaya jaata hai and in western mythology of course it is associated with the doe, but they also associate it with the wolf and the pig. If somebody may ask why the pig, see a Kirk moon eat when they are in a very bad mode. So people would typically hog kirk rashi ki aur, Chandrma in the seventh, they would typically hog when they are in a bad mood. They would drink and vo human pigs ban jaate hai. So moon when beyond his boundaries can be a pig and moon when in a bad mood and wants his revenge he can be a wolf. So doe ke saath main ye do, teen animal humko yaad rakhne chahiye. So lets go to the next slide. So moon ke saath main it has two sides, so moon is the child in you and moon is the devil in you. Aap log, hum sab, school se nikle hain, adults cannot be as cruel as children can be, vo kamjor bachche ke pakde ke peet denge, koi ladki bichari agar weak hai to uski choti khichenge, children can be very cruel at times because they do not have the sense of right or wrong. So moon is the hidden you. Jaise mann kaha Tushar ne, matlab kai philosophers aise the especially _____(16:52) koi bhi pass mein aata tha, vo pahle usko daaru pilake teen din tak talli rakhta tha, subha-sham, din-raat, taaki mein jaanu ki iske ander kaun chupa hua hai, vo ander chupa hua moon, when you get drunk your moon comes up. Sun vo hai jo aap duniya ko dikhate ho, moon vo hai jo daaru peene ke baad bahar aata hai. Punjabiyon main English. Haan English shuru ho jaati, hum royal bande hain. Vo tha na subha se shaam tak Punjabi diet pe hota hai, do kheere aur ice tea aur ye or vo, aur shaam ke do peg, uske baad butter chicken aur dal makhani, aur saath main teen kilo ice cream. So that is when the moon comes out. So ye saare jayada tar crimes of passion, violence ye sab drunk hone par hote hai. So moon is how you respond to feelings. Okay, one can actually behave in a very childish way when it comes to house of the moon. You have moon in the fourth, you are mummy ka bachcha, mummy loves you, you love the mummy and that is where you go when you need some retrieve. That is where you go when you need some century that is where you go when you need somebody to hold you. Second house moon, pareshan hote hai, parivarik baithak laga lete hai. Seventh house moon, spouse ko jaake chipak jayenge. Fifth house moon, bachche khilane lagenge. So moon is both, he is the inner child and the inner beast and he is just the same. So I like this picture very much. Okay, next one.
So like I said, I would rather have a good moon than have anything other. Sab achcha mile bahut badiya, but ek hi choose karna hai, would rather have a good moon. Because we must have seen somebody who is not great shapes at career, jisne kuch bahut jyada kiya nahi, padai main bhi theek theek raha, but vo apni zindagi mein mast hai usko matlab hi nahi. Kisika promotion ho gaya, uski sehat pe asar nahi, doosre log bilkul sad bal ke koyle ho gaye. Dusre ne car khareed li Mercedes usko tension nahi, vo apni Maruti mein raazi hai. Punjabi mein vo bolte hai na,mast raho masti main, aag lage basti mein. So this is something like that. Vo apne mein santhusth hai. Usko jitna upaar vale ne diya hai, he will enjoy it and he will be at peace and even if he is not very brilliant, I have seen people with a very bad Mercury but a strong moon, unko matlab hi nahi boss apne baal noch le, coworker taane marte rahe unko tension nahi, vo saand jaise apni masti mein chalte rahte hai. Aur maine ye dekha hai, they are able to focus more on the positive side of them and we will come to that.
Next part will be uploaded tomorrow.
Video Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPTUFgDUErY&t=255s
G. Vijay Kumar
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